Kushal
06-13 08:30 PM
for your contribution:)
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07-05 11:42 AM
http://digg.com/politics/Reversal_Frustrates_Green_Card_Applicants
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hsingh82
08-09 12:36 PM
Yes what you are saying is true. I am not denying that but how long can you stay on
H1B is the question. But yes I also started with 50k but I am moving up. IT salaries are higher. I know banks paying 70K and going even more above 80K. You can also work as independent contractor type unlike H1B. No middle men inbetween and all expenses before tax.
Yes ofcourse US is a far bigger economy. But I was born in India, what can I do. Within my contraints I am looking for best possibility.
When I feel down/upset I look at this video and I feel far better and motivated: YouTube - Man with no legs and arms - Inspiring story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPmY4nIjVE&feature=channel_page)
Since your wife is Canadian citizen, basically your downside risk in US is hedged. If things don't work out you can quickly move to Canada. But for others with Indian passport
it is not so. Like I said before I am not against working in US under TN1 or H1B. Just that
I am willing to work under desperate body shopper slave like conditions. If I get position under direct client in H1B its fine with me. In fact when your company knows that you are not that desperate they also treat you differently. Is your wife also born in Canada, if so then it is even beter, you are out of the EB-I trap. You should definiately look for US options.
Long back when we were working under H1B/OPT for a company in India, there was the annual bonus/promotion announcement. And I saw that none (except 1) of the H1Bs got a promotion. Just one H1B got promotion and that person had recent married a US citizen. Basically the company knew that its leverage over him is gone and in order to retain him they need to promote him. It is all a zero sum game my friend.
These were answers to someone who asked questions and not a reply to your post.
H1B is the question. But yes I also started with 50k but I am moving up. IT salaries are higher. I know banks paying 70K and going even more above 80K. You can also work as independent contractor type unlike H1B. No middle men inbetween and all expenses before tax.
Yes ofcourse US is a far bigger economy. But I was born in India, what can I do. Within my contraints I am looking for best possibility.
When I feel down/upset I look at this video and I feel far better and motivated: YouTube - Man with no legs and arms - Inspiring story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPmY4nIjVE&feature=channel_page)
Since your wife is Canadian citizen, basically your downside risk in US is hedged. If things don't work out you can quickly move to Canada. But for others with Indian passport
it is not so. Like I said before I am not against working in US under TN1 or H1B. Just that
I am willing to work under desperate body shopper slave like conditions. If I get position under direct client in H1B its fine with me. In fact when your company knows that you are not that desperate they also treat you differently. Is your wife also born in Canada, if so then it is even beter, you are out of the EB-I trap. You should definiately look for US options.
Long back when we were working under H1B/OPT for a company in India, there was the annual bonus/promotion announcement. And I saw that none (except 1) of the H1Bs got a promotion. Just one H1B got promotion and that person had recent married a US citizen. Basically the company knew that its leverage over him is gone and in order to retain him they need to promote him. It is all a zero sum game my friend.
These were answers to someone who asked questions and not a reply to your post.
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needhelp!
02-15 02:24 PM
Are you pumped up for campaigning over the weekend?
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
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rdehar
07-20 04:43 PM
Even I have seen people at my client sites, filing 2-3 years after me get labors and I-140s, do a little 'I am going out to better job' dance and move on, while I have to turn down offers (with 30-40K salary increments !!)
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
krishnam70
07-18 12:12 PM
None has called a ban for anyone being differ but it's just the way you express your opinions by using the words like "herd mentality", "dimwitted" etc. Not that you have accepted that you are here for news only, I don't think we need people like you.
IV is not a news site. It's a group of people who are fighting for a common cause. One needs to understand the common cause is not just helping July filers or people affected with retrogress but a bigger aim of helping all the legal employment-based immigrants. But one also needs to understand that not all the objective can be accomplished at a time and we need to strike the iron when it's hot and make every opportunity count, be it a BEC, retrogression, July filer or Visa recapturing.
Having said that, I do agree that BEC is one of the issue which should definitely be focussing on next. I'm sure IV members (even if they are not a BEC victim) will support whole heartedly any cause which can bring some relief to BEC victms. What we need is a united front and some unique ideas like flower campaign. Do not forget the flower campaign idea was pursued by one of the IV member who was not part of core.
I think critics of both sides of the argument need to have their say but in a decent manner. This is a public forum and while personal opinions are welcome please be sensitive to the situation other people are in before making any statements. Everybody needs a place to vent out but this is not an forum for vents, it is for a common cause. While we acheive some small victories in this long wait the actual battle is ahead of us and lets not lose focus. There might be many of our fellow members who might become inactive because they recd their GC's or simply not interested anymore and yet at the same time there would be many more new members joining the group for help and advise.
It is imperative to understand , as often pointed out by logiclife, that one person's loss is not anothers gain here. While some of us may feel bad because even latest PERM approved can file 485 while BEC stuck filers are waiting in the benches there is no guarantee that they will get GC before us. If that were true then there would be not so many people waiting here for their GC's. I do feel worried to an extent about how this might affect my chances of getting a GC(waiting 7 yrs already, 485 filed 3 yrs ago) but is there anything we can do to change this? -certainly, the way to change it is to look at the big picture and try to eliminate the reasons for the backlog issue and see that reduced. If that is done and we see some changes on account of the SKILL bill or any of the other initiatives like re-capture of old unused visas or one Visa number per family then all of us would be in a better situation.
For those people who are insensitive to the emotions of people who are stuck in BEC remember till yesterday you were also cursing USCIS(irrespective of your PD) about not being able to file 485 and yet today you scorn those who feel wronged for not being able to file because of this BEC mess.
Lets all unite and try to work towards the large picture issues rather than squabbling over things like this. TO BAN or Not to BAN is IV moderators perogative, if somebody violated the spirit they need to get a warning and given a chance to change or then banned..my thoughts..
cheers
IV is not a news site. It's a group of people who are fighting for a common cause. One needs to understand the common cause is not just helping July filers or people affected with retrogress but a bigger aim of helping all the legal employment-based immigrants. But one also needs to understand that not all the objective can be accomplished at a time and we need to strike the iron when it's hot and make every opportunity count, be it a BEC, retrogression, July filer or Visa recapturing.
Having said that, I do agree that BEC is one of the issue which should definitely be focussing on next. I'm sure IV members (even if they are not a BEC victim) will support whole heartedly any cause which can bring some relief to BEC victms. What we need is a united front and some unique ideas like flower campaign. Do not forget the flower campaign idea was pursued by one of the IV member who was not part of core.
I think critics of both sides of the argument need to have their say but in a decent manner. This is a public forum and while personal opinions are welcome please be sensitive to the situation other people are in before making any statements. Everybody needs a place to vent out but this is not an forum for vents, it is for a common cause. While we acheive some small victories in this long wait the actual battle is ahead of us and lets not lose focus. There might be many of our fellow members who might become inactive because they recd their GC's or simply not interested anymore and yet at the same time there would be many more new members joining the group for help and advise.
It is imperative to understand , as often pointed out by logiclife, that one person's loss is not anothers gain here. While some of us may feel bad because even latest PERM approved can file 485 while BEC stuck filers are waiting in the benches there is no guarantee that they will get GC before us. If that were true then there would be not so many people waiting here for their GC's. I do feel worried to an extent about how this might affect my chances of getting a GC(waiting 7 yrs already, 485 filed 3 yrs ago) but is there anything we can do to change this? -certainly, the way to change it is to look at the big picture and try to eliminate the reasons for the backlog issue and see that reduced. If that is done and we see some changes on account of the SKILL bill or any of the other initiatives like re-capture of old unused visas or one Visa number per family then all of us would be in a better situation.
For those people who are insensitive to the emotions of people who are stuck in BEC remember till yesterday you were also cursing USCIS(irrespective of your PD) about not being able to file 485 and yet today you scorn those who feel wronged for not being able to file because of this BEC mess.
Lets all unite and try to work towards the large picture issues rather than squabbling over things like this. TO BAN or Not to BAN is IV moderators perogative, if somebody violated the spirit they need to get a warning and given a chance to change or then banned..my thoughts..
cheers
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elliptic
05-11 11:06 PM
H1-visa holders with H4-spouses and children are not the only victims
of the SSN requirement:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987
(And serveral other newspaper. It is an AP story)
Unfortunately, the article doesn't mention the problem with the SSA.
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It seems this was discussed already in other threads.
of the SSN requirement:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987
(And serveral other newspaper. It is an AP story)
Unfortunately, the article doesn't mention the problem with the SSA.
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It seems this was discussed already in other threads.
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akred
03-14 11:42 AM
A ton of EB3 cases with early priority dates came out of the BECs in 2006. Plus the end of labor substitution acted as a trigger for people to use these priority dates. I know my company systematically went through and substituted newer filers so they could get these older priority dates.
Also, although a lot of people are moving from EB3->EB2, USCIS needs to process the new I-140 and recapture the priority date for them to get an accurate picture of the EB3/EB2 queue. There is a largish I140 backlog today.
Also, although a lot of people are moving from EB3->EB2, USCIS needs to process the new I-140 and recapture the priority date for them to get an accurate picture of the EB3/EB2 queue. There is a largish I140 backlog today.
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jnagendra
07-17 08:03 PM
I am EB-3 ROW PD 2007 Aug. Reading all the Eb-3 I people's angry, I started to wonder what's gonna happen to the EB-3 ROW. Seems like if lots of Eb3-I change to EB2-I , They will probably eat up all the Spillover from Eb1, EB2 ROW from now on. That makes EB-3 ROW and EB-3 I become the same boat.
Is it what gonna happened?
All Indians and Chinese will file only EB2 now onwards:D
The problem is with past filings how to convert them to EB2.
Is it what gonna happened?
All Indians and Chinese will file only EB2 now onwards:D
The problem is with past filings how to convert them to EB2.
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natrajs
07-01 12:43 PM
Got this email again today at 9:05am
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On June 30, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283
Congrats and Best Wishes
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On June 30, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283
Congrats and Best Wishes
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here4gc
09-21 01:00 AM
Sorry guys, I was in India for the last 2 months...family issues..etc...but congrats on a successful rally, I notice people are talking of another rally, here are my 2 cents :
1) Although the rally made news, the fact that ONLY 1000 people attended is not enuff for national coverage and common man- news.
2) A second rally should not just be one rally, it should be a rally across the country, every state, city, street. Fix up one date and one time where everybody in each state/city can meet, if you live in falls church and have a volunteer to organize the meeting, meet up there with some slogans, if u can do it downtown NY with even 100 people, thats great..but it all has to be co-ordinated, just think of the impact if at 2PM EST, 11AM PST and 12PM CST on one particular day... every legal immigrant worker is on a rally and this gets publicized..i know it sounds far fetched...but little wonder, the illegals all gathered up in large numbers and were able to get legal in 2003-2004....can we educated folk learn something there ?? i can volunteer for my area (west coast, southern california)..any takers ?
1) Although the rally made news, the fact that ONLY 1000 people attended is not enuff for national coverage and common man- news.
2) A second rally should not just be one rally, it should be a rally across the country, every state, city, street. Fix up one date and one time where everybody in each state/city can meet, if you live in falls church and have a volunteer to organize the meeting, meet up there with some slogans, if u can do it downtown NY with even 100 people, thats great..but it all has to be co-ordinated, just think of the impact if at 2PM EST, 11AM PST and 12PM CST on one particular day... every legal immigrant worker is on a rally and this gets publicized..i know it sounds far fetched...but little wonder, the illegals all gathered up in large numbers and were able to get legal in 2003-2004....can we educated folk learn something there ?? i can volunteer for my area (west coast, southern california)..any takers ?
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gerilart
09-24 11:54 PM
I think that the best way to get media attention is to have own journalist.
It would be possible to have an Immigration Voice Daily (or Times). However I am to sure how difficult would be to have some one participating in presidential campaign debates and rallies as well press conferences and ask questions about legal immigration.
Are there any journalism graduates?
It would be possible to have an Immigration Voice Daily (or Times). However I am to sure how difficult would be to have some one participating in presidential campaign debates and rallies as well press conferences and ask questions about legal immigration.
Are there any journalism graduates?
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02-12 06:00 PM
You are right. The stakes are high..
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Too late in the game. Lets just finish up what we've started. I believe in go green (I pledged not to buy another box of ziplocs) , but if 25000 sheets of paper will bring me my fixes, I don't mind planting 20 trees to make up for it.
All Please visit http://www.plant-trees.org where you can
plant a tree for a dime.
Kris
Too late in the game. Lets just finish up what we've started. I believe in go green (I pledged not to buy another box of ziplocs) , but if 25000 sheets of paper will bring me my fixes, I don't mind planting 20 trees to make up for it.
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hariswaminathan
07-18 11:02 PM
Hi, I am currently on a Company A's payroll and working at a client's place (Company B); now that Company B wants me to join them; however, there is a contract between Companies A & B not to hire the employee directly; what should be done in this case? I also have a contractual obligation to my employer not to join the client for 12 months. My employer(Company A) is not willing to let me go (though I worked for a year already). Any advise from the forum?
Thanks
1. Your company (A) has you in a bind. They also have the client (B) in a bind. I doubt (B) will stand up for you beyond a point and fight any battle - unless they are really desparate to hire you.
2. Dont go against your company - they are likely to go after you legally and probably win.
3. Try to negotiate with your client (B) to pay a fees to your (A) to hire you as full time. This is probably the only way to get out of it clean and keep both parties happy.
Thanks
1. Your company (A) has you in a bind. They also have the client (B) in a bind. I doubt (B) will stand up for you beyond a point and fight any battle - unless they are really desparate to hire you.
2. Dont go against your company - they are likely to go after you legally and probably win.
3. Try to negotiate with your client (B) to pay a fees to your (A) to hire you as full time. This is probably the only way to get out of it clean and keep both parties happy.
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dilbert_cal
05-10 02:17 AM
Answer inline in RED.
Even I was interested in similar scenario.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
If your 485 is pending for less than 180 days, you are taking a risk. Its a calculated risk but most of the time there are no issues. In such a case , you will join a new employer and continue the process. If a RFE is raised within the 180 day period, you are in trouble. But realistically, your case is hardly worked on in the first 180 days. Once 180 days have passed, you can use AC21. A lot of people have done it in the past - and have been lucky.
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
If you absolutely want to do everything from scratch, yes you can withdraw your application. But its not a requirement to restart the clock until you have to.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
No issues on your next 485 filing.
Any response will be appreciated.
Even I was interested in similar scenario.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
If your 485 is pending for less than 180 days, you are taking a risk. Its a calculated risk but most of the time there are no issues. In such a case , you will join a new employer and continue the process. If a RFE is raised within the 180 day period, you are in trouble. But realistically, your case is hardly worked on in the first 180 days. Once 180 days have passed, you can use AC21. A lot of people have done it in the past - and have been lucky.
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
If you absolutely want to do everything from scratch, yes you can withdraw your application. But its not a requirement to restart the clock until you have to.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
No issues on your next 485 filing.
Any response will be appreciated.
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snathan
03-26 01:03 PM
Just to add.... porting process is legit for EB-2 as well. EB-1 is current now. :p
***
The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They�re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there�s no need for a lid "
***
The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
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The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They�re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there�s no need for a lid "
***
The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
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Leo07
03-28 03:43 PM
bade mia, tere bataan sunke bohut kush hua main. Pottey yahan key alag hain. questionnah poocho nakko boletho suntha nahin kya? subah ka nashta katham nahin hua, spilloveraah key baarein mei baata karraa?
3 mahiney key baad milna, spillover key baarey mein baata karne ka ha tho.
baba re baba ye hp laptop kya hai re ....
mai spillwer ke bare mai poochta tum kaiku hp laptop ke bareme baatien karta
mai mian dost boola jaoo iv ko jaake dekho waha kya katre hai to vohich me karta ab main yeha ayike pareshaan ho gaya baba. kya baata karte yaha pe
ab mian sidha jawab ka sidha sawal koi deta ki nahi yahach pe.
3 mahiney key baad milna, spillover key baarey mein baata karne ka ha tho.
baba re baba ye hp laptop kya hai re ....
mai spillwer ke bare mai poochta tum kaiku hp laptop ke bareme baatien karta
mai mian dost boola jaoo iv ko jaake dekho waha kya katre hai to vohich me karta ab main yeha ayike pareshaan ho gaya baba. kya baata karte yaha pe
ab mian sidha jawab ka sidha sawal koi deta ki nahi yahach pe.
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07-21 12:09 AM
http://dallas.eknazar.com/ekClassifieds/product_desc.php?id=232721
http://sanantonio.eknazar.com/Classifieds/product_desc.php?id=232720
http://www.competeamerica.org/hill/letter_congress/HouseEBGree%20CardBillsSignOnLtr.pdf
July 17, 2008
Dear Member of Congress:
As U.S. employers, education institutions, and trade associations representing the future of American
innovation, we are writing to urge your support for three bills that will make necessary incremental
adjustments to the employment-based (EB) green card system. The measures � H.R. 6039, H.R. 5921
and H.R. 5882 � enjoy bipartisan support and should be enacted without delay this year.
America�s scientific and technological leadership is at a crossroads. To remain the world leader in
innovation, U.S. employers must have access to much-needed and sought-after highly educated talent �
including scientists, researchers, teachers and medical professionals. Foreign-born professionals make
great contributions to the U.S. economy and create good, high-paying jobs for all Americans.
U.S. employers rely on EB green cards to keep foreign-born talent living, working and innovating in
America. Yet, despite the critical importance of these visas, Congress has failed to address the well
documented backlogs in the EB green card system that leave some foreign-born, highly educated
professionals waiting over six to 10 years to receive a permanent resident visa.
The three bills will address many shortcomings in the EB green card system. For example:
� H.R. 6039, by exempting highly educated, foreign-born students earning an advanced degree in
science, technology, engineering or mathematics from a U.S. university from the annual EB green
card limit, would help U.S. employers retain these talented individuals in the U.S. workforce. For
example, foreign nationals comprise half of the master�s and 70 percent of the Ph.D.s in electrical
engineering from U.S. universities.
� H.R. 5921 will help put an end to multi-year wait times by eliminating unduly restrictive per
country limits on EB green cards.
� H.R. 5882 will help to reduce visa backlogs by �recapturing� EB green cards from prior years
that went unused due to government processing delays and making them available immediately to
those who meet the requirements.
Without these incremental reforms, U.S. employers will continue to be crippled in the global competition
for the world�s best talent, as more and more extremely valuable professionals from around the world
take their education and abilities to competitors abroad.
While permanent reforms for the EB green card system will be critical to U.S. employers� long-term
ability to hire and retain key worldwide talent, H.R. 6039, H.R. 5921 and H.R. 5882 are common sense,
incremental reforms that should be enacted this year. We again urge your support for these important
measures.
Sincerely,
http://sanantonio.eknazar.com/Classifieds/product_desc.php?id=232720
http://www.competeamerica.org/hill/letter_congress/HouseEBGree%20CardBillsSignOnLtr.pdf
July 17, 2008
Dear Member of Congress:
As U.S. employers, education institutions, and trade associations representing the future of American
innovation, we are writing to urge your support for three bills that will make necessary incremental
adjustments to the employment-based (EB) green card system. The measures � H.R. 6039, H.R. 5921
and H.R. 5882 � enjoy bipartisan support and should be enacted without delay this year.
America�s scientific and technological leadership is at a crossroads. To remain the world leader in
innovation, U.S. employers must have access to much-needed and sought-after highly educated talent �
including scientists, researchers, teachers and medical professionals. Foreign-born professionals make
great contributions to the U.S. economy and create good, high-paying jobs for all Americans.
U.S. employers rely on EB green cards to keep foreign-born talent living, working and innovating in
America. Yet, despite the critical importance of these visas, Congress has failed to address the well
documented backlogs in the EB green card system that leave some foreign-born, highly educated
professionals waiting over six to 10 years to receive a permanent resident visa.
The three bills will address many shortcomings in the EB green card system. For example:
� H.R. 6039, by exempting highly educated, foreign-born students earning an advanced degree in
science, technology, engineering or mathematics from a U.S. university from the annual EB green
card limit, would help U.S. employers retain these talented individuals in the U.S. workforce. For
example, foreign nationals comprise half of the master�s and 70 percent of the Ph.D.s in electrical
engineering from U.S. universities.
� H.R. 5921 will help put an end to multi-year wait times by eliminating unduly restrictive per
country limits on EB green cards.
� H.R. 5882 will help to reduce visa backlogs by �recapturing� EB green cards from prior years
that went unused due to government processing delays and making them available immediately to
those who meet the requirements.
Without these incremental reforms, U.S. employers will continue to be crippled in the global competition
for the world�s best talent, as more and more extremely valuable professionals from around the world
take their education and abilities to competitors abroad.
While permanent reforms for the EB green card system will be critical to U.S. employers� long-term
ability to hire and retain key worldwide talent, H.R. 6039, H.R. 5921 and H.R. 5882 are common sense,
incremental reforms that should be enacted this year. We again urge your support for these important
measures.
Sincerely,
pappu
01-13 01:57 PM
desi9333 thanks for the link. Nice one - even though it covers only Hiring practices, and not opportunities for promotions and progression.
The "Opportunity" usage has been explained much beyond Hiring in the other laws and related documents. Hence, an employee who subsequently faces discrimination because he/she cannot progress or misses on job advancements due to Visa limit restrictions is certainly being discriminated against.
Its my view and others can differ. I respect all opinions and am thankful to all because it helps improve my reasoning, mutual respect and tolerance abilities.
Back to the subject,
My earlier post on first page this thread has some action items - can anyone here take the lead and convince an attorney to take up the cause?
My cheque shall be sent as soon as the ball gets rolling.
The aim is not to convince an attorney. You can file a lawsuit for any reason and fight it. But the question is - Is the case strong enough?
In this case the case is not strong. IV has access to best attorneys and we have had discussions on this as well. The best way to change country limits discrimination is by changing the law.
The "Opportunity" usage has been explained much beyond Hiring in the other laws and related documents. Hence, an employee who subsequently faces discrimination because he/she cannot progress or misses on job advancements due to Visa limit restrictions is certainly being discriminated against.
Its my view and others can differ. I respect all opinions and am thankful to all because it helps improve my reasoning, mutual respect and tolerance abilities.
Back to the subject,
My earlier post on first page this thread has some action items - can anyone here take the lead and convince an attorney to take up the cause?
My cheque shall be sent as soon as the ball gets rolling.
The aim is not to convince an attorney. You can file a lawsuit for any reason and fight it. But the question is - Is the case strong enough?
In this case the case is not strong. IV has access to best attorneys and we have had discussions on this as well. The best way to change country limits discrimination is by changing the law.
rahulpaper
11-15 07:09 AM
I try to remind citizens (people i know) that they are offspring of immigrants...the point I struggle with is "how to convince them that they should actively support CURRENT LEGAL IMMIGRATION". Most of them feel that there is a system (which we know is broken) in place.
Maybe the discussion point should be LEGAL IMMIGRATION is normal phenomenon. The system is broken at multiple points (slow processes/supply-demand of visa numbers/wasted visa numbers/country limits etc). We are trying to FIX broken system and need voter group's support in that.
My request to you all is...bring awareness about inefficient broken system to everyone you meet...and we may have a chance of positive discussion.
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
Maybe the discussion point should be LEGAL IMMIGRATION is normal phenomenon. The system is broken at multiple points (slow processes/supply-demand of visa numbers/wasted visa numbers/country limits etc). We are trying to FIX broken system and need voter group's support in that.
My request to you all is...bring awareness about inefficient broken system to everyone you meet...and we may have a chance of positive discussion.
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
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