m306m
04-30 02:28 PM
Guys,
lets get to $10K today. IV needs money to lobby. Please dig deeper and contribute to this effort.
lets get to $10K today. IV needs money to lobby. Please dig deeper and contribute to this effort.
lvgc
06-25 12:20 PM
I and few of my friends called into Rep. Smith's office. The reply we got was that it would be effective only if more of his constituents called.
So, we need to get more locals from Rep. Smiths district to call ...
So, we need to get more locals from Rep. Smiths district to call ...
justice4all
07-21 09:09 PM
Hi All,
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
Hello Risker,
After going through all postings, it is wise to consider the following actions in order:
1. Contact the IV core team and tell our problem. Ask their input about what we can do and whom we need to contact. They may let us in correct direction.
2. In the meantime, Get the details of peoples whose case are still in backlog centre.
3. Finally, nothing works and no one help us, file a lawsuit. (As I dont know anything about the lawsuit here, many of them mentioned that the lawsuit should be done by the employer and there is more possibility of loosing.. We should not lose heart on that. In the suit, we need to ask them to make it current and keep the same filing fees until 30 Sep 07)
P.S. As one of the posting mentioned, we may also consider waiting till Sep 07 before filing lawsuit. Because DOL promised to clear all cases before 30 Sep 07. If they dont then our case become more stronger. Till then we need to contact concerned people (like IV, congressman etc) and collect all infromation.
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
Hello Risker,
After going through all postings, it is wise to consider the following actions in order:
1. Contact the IV core team and tell our problem. Ask their input about what we can do and whom we need to contact. They may let us in correct direction.
2. In the meantime, Get the details of peoples whose case are still in backlog centre.
3. Finally, nothing works and no one help us, file a lawsuit. (As I dont know anything about the lawsuit here, many of them mentioned that the lawsuit should be done by the employer and there is more possibility of loosing.. We should not lose heart on that. In the suit, we need to ask them to make it current and keep the same filing fees until 30 Sep 07)
P.S. As one of the posting mentioned, we may also consider waiting till Sep 07 before filing lawsuit. Because DOL promised to clear all cases before 30 Sep 07. If they dont then our case become more stronger. Till then we need to contact concerned people (like IV, congressman etc) and collect all infromation.
GCwaitforever
06-19 06:32 PM
Including the House session and Conference session, if somehow this is pushed beyond October 1st 2007, then the enactment will happen on October 1st 2008. We have to hope for that. That gives best possible window for all BEC, PERM-BEC candidates and people who have not filed their I-140s yet.
The impact is on H-1B renewals beyond six years, with the cut-off proposed at six years. The only exception for renewal beyond 6 years is given explicitly to people who applied for immigrant petition. So BEC/PERM-BEC people should apply for I-140 asap.
The impact is on H-1B renewals beyond six years, with the cut-off proposed at six years. The only exception for renewal beyond 6 years is given explicitly to people who applied for immigrant petition. So BEC/PERM-BEC people should apply for I-140 asap.
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paskal
09-21 09:51 PM
your contributions in the past and for the rally are much appreciated.
btw the chapter needs to have an urgent con-call about some impending legislative action. watch out for details..be sure to attend!
btw the chapter needs to have an urgent con-call about some impending legislative action. watch out for details..be sure to attend!
trueguy
07-18 04:26 PM
Any expert advice on it?
Hi,
Can I apply for ITIN for my wife when she is not physically in USA and she never been here?
Thanks for your replies.
Rgds.
Hi,
Can I apply for ITIN for my wife when she is not physically in USA and she never been here?
Thanks for your replies.
Rgds.
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niles123
05-29 12:19 PM
Here's my $100...
Transaction ID: 12U23194T7899834E
Niles
Transaction ID: 12U23194T7899834E
Niles
nosightofgc
08-20 09:56 PM
Which embassy? I had the same experience when I renewed my passport. For passport renewal we need to apply on line. When they gave me the new passport, it had the wrong issuedate of the original passport. When I asked about that the lady in the counter started yelling at me saying its my fault and it is what I typed on line. She showed me her computer screen as if its my fault and finally they made a note in the passport with pen.
After I came home, I checked the copy I took when I applied and I entered correct information. Interesting thing is same typos happened to several people on the same day, and the embassey staff told every one the same story.
After I came home, I checked the copy I took when I applied and I entered correct information. Interesting thing is same typos happened to several people on the same day, and the embassey staff told every one the same story.
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ashutrip
06-22 04:17 PM
The debate in the senate begins on Tuesday. Dont know about voting schedule but I guess it has to complete by 29th.
How badly will it screw us?????????//
How badly will it screw us?????????//
pappu
11-14 08:26 PM
December Visa bulletin is obviously frustrating for all of us. After the recent accomplishments in July visa bulletin and the tons of approvals that we saw after that, we hoped that everything will be alright.
But that did not happen. Some of us in the community were taken by surprise, but this was expected. Afterall there are only 140K greencards available every year. EB2 for India and China is already used up for the quarter. EB3 is badly retrogressed for everyone.
Believe me, it will not get any better. It will get worse with time if there is no immigration reform.
IV can only do what its members empower it to do. If members want us to be just a site for question and answers for individual visa problems we can stay like that. If members want us to come together and do a rally in DC, we will help organize it. We did a rally in DC on Sept 18 and made great progress. However we cannot just sit back and admire one effort. We need to continue it and capitalize on it.
Now is the time for everyone to decide if they want a greencard. If you need a greencard, and want to do something about it, then you must join this effort and help yourself by helping everyone.
Our Plans
Our next hope is year end bills. If we can get some provisions in those bills we can certainly look forward to a happy new year with fast movement of visa dates. Next year is an election year and it will become much tougher for any immigration bill to pass. We will need to make super extra push next year for something to happen. So the time to act is NOW.
We have achieved great successes when we all came together and did something. If you need proof read Macaca’s post with compilation of our achievements. http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
IV only asks 3 things from each one of you. Having these 3 pillars of support from members we will be able to increase our chances for an year end push.
================================================== ===============================
1) Please sign up for monthly contributions. Monthly contributions help us plan ahead of time and commit our resources. Your participation will determine how big of a push we can afford. Just $50 every month per person can have significant effect on the overall push that IV can plan so please consider contributing.. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
Please post on this thread, if you have signed up for monthly contributions.
================================================== ===============================
2) Join your state chapters now. Get together with your fellow community members and meet your local lawmakers. We are a grassroots effort and can be successful if each one of us makes a sincere effort to meet our lawmakers and apprise them of our issues. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52
================================================== ===============================
3) Consider yourself part of something big. What we are doing is something big. We have already done what was difficult to think when this organization was started. Today we have become a big force and a voice of legal high skilled community. Each one of you defines what IV is. Your posts, your talks with media, your talks with your friends about IV, your talks with your employer about immigration problems, your time and effort you put in for IV defines who we are. Each one of you is important for the success of this effort. Each one of us is a voice and we have converged our energies to make a strong voice. Please consider yourself an integral part of IV and actively participate in the effort.
================================================== ===============================
Let us start a massive effort in this direction and make a year end push!
But that did not happen. Some of us in the community were taken by surprise, but this was expected. Afterall there are only 140K greencards available every year. EB2 for India and China is already used up for the quarter. EB3 is badly retrogressed for everyone.
Believe me, it will not get any better. It will get worse with time if there is no immigration reform.
IV can only do what its members empower it to do. If members want us to be just a site for question and answers for individual visa problems we can stay like that. If members want us to come together and do a rally in DC, we will help organize it. We did a rally in DC on Sept 18 and made great progress. However we cannot just sit back and admire one effort. We need to continue it and capitalize on it.
Now is the time for everyone to decide if they want a greencard. If you need a greencard, and want to do something about it, then you must join this effort and help yourself by helping everyone.
Our Plans
Our next hope is year end bills. If we can get some provisions in those bills we can certainly look forward to a happy new year with fast movement of visa dates. Next year is an election year and it will become much tougher for any immigration bill to pass. We will need to make super extra push next year for something to happen. So the time to act is NOW.
We have achieved great successes when we all came together and did something. If you need proof read Macaca’s post with compilation of our achievements. http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=181953&postcount=216
IV only asks 3 things from each one of you. Having these 3 pillars of support from members we will be able to increase our chances for an year end push.
================================================== ===============================
1) Please sign up for monthly contributions. Monthly contributions help us plan ahead of time and commit our resources. Your participation will determine how big of a push we can afford. Just $50 every month per person can have significant effect on the overall push that IV can plan so please consider contributing.. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
Please post on this thread, if you have signed up for monthly contributions.
================================================== ===============================
2) Join your state chapters now. Get together with your fellow community members and meet your local lawmakers. We are a grassroots effort and can be successful if each one of us makes a sincere effort to meet our lawmakers and apprise them of our issues. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52
================================================== ===============================
3) Consider yourself part of something big. What we are doing is something big. We have already done what was difficult to think when this organization was started. Today we have become a big force and a voice of legal high skilled community. Each one of you defines what IV is. Your posts, your talks with media, your talks with your friends about IV, your talks with your employer about immigration problems, your time and effort you put in for IV defines who we are. Each one of you is important for the success of this effort. Each one of us is a voice and we have converged our energies to make a strong voice. Please consider yourself an integral part of IV and actively participate in the effort.
================================================== ===============================
Let us start a massive effort in this direction and make a year end push!
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svam77
07-18 10:36 AM
I am in the same boat too. But I am not sure if we have a whole 1 month to file 485 based on July bulletin.
The press release by USCIS says that, whoever falls under July Bulletin have the whole 1 month to apply. But if we dont get receipts before July 30th, we may not fall under July bulletin and so we would not be able to apply.
From what I understood, if we get the receipt before jUly 30th,we are good, or else we have to find an alternative to apply before July 30.
The press release by USCIS says that, whoever falls under July Bulletin have the whole 1 month to apply. But if we dont get receipts before July 30th, we may not fall under July bulletin and so we would not be able to apply.
From what I understood, if we get the receipt before jUly 30th,we are good, or else we have to find an alternative to apply before July 30.
browncow
06-13 03:49 PM
What I am saying is - when dealing with things outside of your home country - you cannot expect or assume fairness to you.
lol, are you saying that an american does not expect to be treated fairly in canada?
or you have accepted racism as a part and parcel of being born an indian?
if so, believe me, you are in the minority.
lol, are you saying that an american does not expect to be treated fairly in canada?
or you have accepted racism as a part and parcel of being born an indian?
if so, believe me, you are in the minority.
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whoever
02-09 06:30 PM
and i have a feeling they will really get those 90000 from pool of prious years unused eb visas. i dont think it is rumor or just someone without knowing what they are doing writing on a blog and spreading rumor.
needhelp!
03-04 09:56 PM
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is: http://download206.mediafire.com/xwcsdggj4yjg/blrmnntd10w/FOIA_USCISResponse.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?blrmnntd10w)
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
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days_go_by
07-20 04:23 PM
Can someone confirm if you can maintain accounts in the US after you leave. That sounds very dumb. I want US to keep my money and they don't want it?
I understand that after Patriot Act you can't open accounts in US without SSN but I think you should be able to keep your account because that SSN is assigned to you forever.
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I am not sure about effect of patriot act, but some of my friends who left in 2002 era still have accounts here. Another friend left for Banglore but his 401K is still here.
I understand that after Patriot Act you can't open accounts in US without SSN but I think you should be able to keep your account because that SSN is assigned to you forever.
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I am not sure about effect of patriot act, but some of my friends who left in 2002 era still have accounts here. Another friend left for Banglore but his 401K is still here.
BharatPremi
07-05 10:59 AM
Dude you asked ALL the wrong questions. Did you not read the part where I specified that they are all CONFUSED out of their SKIN. Its like asking a second grade child if he agrees with the Theory of relativity.
:) I should have asked .. Why the hell USCIS took so long (2 weeks) to screw
our as..s?
And I am sure, If I might have asked that she would have put me on the hold to get an answer from her superior.
:) I should have asked .. Why the hell USCIS took so long (2 weeks) to screw
our as..s?
And I am sure, If I might have asked that she would have put me on the hold to get an answer from her superior.
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saint_2010
09-21 09:24 PM
I agree with Logiclife...
desi3933
03-05 12:19 PM
I think pre-adjudication solves this catch-22 situation, and they have been pre-adjudicating quite a bit over the past two years. So, I dont think that this is an issue.
>> I think pre-adjudication solves this catch-22 situation
No. It does not.
Since, as per letter, country of chargeability is assigned at the time of approval (i.e. when immigrant visa number is assigned)
.
>> I think pre-adjudication solves this catch-22 situation
No. It does not.
Since, as per letter, country of chargeability is assigned at the time of approval (i.e. when immigrant visa number is assigned)
.
belmontboy
06-01 08:34 PM
I've had some pilot training, so I'll chip in.
All commercial planes have advanced information of a thunderstorm way before it arrives. Most of the airlines/pilots take a detour to avoid it. That increase expense (extra fuel cost/arrival delay, passenger compensation, delay in subsequent flights, etc.). So, the chepo airlines will take a shot at simply going through it. Risk for a big modern plane is very very small but non-zero. An airline making a decision based on costs instead of ethics will pressurize captains to go through such storms.
The lesson is simple: avoid AF. You'll have to be an idiot to fly it or a cheap airlines like that.
A meteorologist who spoke to the Associated Press said tropical thunderstorms in the Atlantic could tower up to 15,240m (50,000ft).
"At the altitude it was flying, it's possible that the Air France plane flew directly into the most charged part of the storm - the top," said Henry Margusity, senior meteorologist for AccuWeather.com.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8078147.stm
why the heck do they fly over or into the storm??
Are the airlines risking people lives just to save cheap dollars??
It is unethical of AF to blame bad weather. You need to differentiate here - turbulence is okay, thunderstorms?? what the heck.. why would a commercial airlines fly into a thunderstorm
All commercial planes have advanced information of a thunderstorm way before it arrives. Most of the airlines/pilots take a detour to avoid it. That increase expense (extra fuel cost/arrival delay, passenger compensation, delay in subsequent flights, etc.). So, the chepo airlines will take a shot at simply going through it. Risk for a big modern plane is very very small but non-zero. An airline making a decision based on costs instead of ethics will pressurize captains to go through such storms.
The lesson is simple: avoid AF. You'll have to be an idiot to fly it or a cheap airlines like that.
A meteorologist who spoke to the Associated Press said tropical thunderstorms in the Atlantic could tower up to 15,240m (50,000ft).
"At the altitude it was flying, it's possible that the Air France plane flew directly into the most charged part of the storm - the top," said Henry Margusity, senior meteorologist for AccuWeather.com.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8078147.stm
why the heck do they fly over or into the storm??
Are the airlines risking people lives just to save cheap dollars??
It is unethical of AF to blame bad weather. You need to differentiate here - turbulence is okay, thunderstorms?? what the heck.. why would a commercial airlines fly into a thunderstorm
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chanduv23
08-03 11:32 PM
As we discuss about law firms, please work on these action items for the weekend
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
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