grupak
06-25 12:32 PM
I and few of my friends called into Rep. Smith's office. The reply we got was that it would be effective only if more of his constituents called.
So, we need to get more locals from Rep. Smiths district to call ...
We need more calls from the congressman's district.
So, we need to get more locals from Rep. Smiths district to call ...
We need more calls from the congressman's district.
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gk_2000
03-28 05:19 PM
Ahh.. atleast i have one person who is agreed on my point. Thanks
MC
How does it feel, to be alone? Selfish will be alone in the end. Good luck.
MC
How does it feel, to be alone? Selfish will be alone in the end. Good luck.
swamy
10-04 01:17 PM
any where in metro detroit is fine with me
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immuser
09-20 02:54 PM
Hello guys!
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I am not sure if another rally will help. I believe lobbing in DC, meetings with law makers will be more effective than rallying or trying to get public attention.
The rally that illegal immigrants made some time back had huge turnout and large media publicity - it was a success in that sense. But I think it was counter-productive for them. The fact that no pro-immigration bill had passed proves this.
I agree with the sense of urgency part. With the economy heading into recession and job market weakening, getting more skilled workers into the country will be the last thing congress will take up. So it is important to get something done sooner than later.
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I am not sure if another rally will help. I believe lobbing in DC, meetings with law makers will be more effective than rallying or trying to get public attention.
The rally that illegal immigrants made some time back had huge turnout and large media publicity - it was a success in that sense. But I think it was counter-productive for them. The fact that no pro-immigration bill had passed proves this.
I agree with the sense of urgency part. With the economy heading into recession and job market weakening, getting more skilled workers into the country will be the last thing congress will take up. So it is important to get something done sooner than later.
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delhiguy79
07-19 08:51 PM
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franklin
09-21 08:53 PM
Hi Franklin,
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
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anilsal
11-25 11:18 PM
Lets start with #4, may be a snail mail letter campaign?
Rajuram, can you please tell us which state chapter you belong to so that the chapter leader can get in touch with you?
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Only hope is IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15436
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Rajuram, can you please tell us which state chapter you belong to so that the chapter leader can get in touch with you?
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Only hope is IV:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15436
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flipflop
07-15 03:06 PM
I believe this ......
I am assuming that EB2 India will have a cut-off date of atleast June 2006 for Aug as well as Sep. The time window of approvals is Aug 1 2008 to Sep 30 2008. In this time frame, they will have to pull the files from shelves and make them ready for adjudication.
I also remember from I-485 field SOP, that first step is to contact US Consulate abroad where you filled your DS-156 if you traveled within last 12 months for any discrepancy. This step itself can take a long time.
Then there are a lot of people who had PD current but they haven't done finger-printing yet. Imagine time required to schedule fingerprints, appear for one, and then get the results.
Just my thoughts.
I am assuming that EB2 India will have a cut-off date of atleast June 2006 for Aug as well as Sep. The time window of approvals is Aug 1 2008 to Sep 30 2008. In this time frame, they will have to pull the files from shelves and make them ready for adjudication.
I also remember from I-485 field SOP, that first step is to contact US Consulate abroad where you filled your DS-156 if you traveled within last 12 months for any discrepancy. This step itself can take a long time.
Then there are a lot of people who had PD current but they haven't done finger-printing yet. Imagine time required to schedule fingerprints, appear for one, and then get the results.
Just my thoughts.
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santb1975
04-27 03:28 PM
Checks are being accepted at this time.
Can we mail checks to the address:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
now?
There was a time when we stopped accepting checks then we started to accept them again, so not sure what state we are in currently.
Can we mail checks to the address:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
now?
There was a time when we stopped accepting checks then we started to accept them again, so not sure what state we are in currently.
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needhelp!
02-15 02:24 PM
Are you pumped up for campaigning over the weekend?
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
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go_guy123
08-09 03:31 PM
go_guy123, since you have MS+MBA, you should seriously consider applying for US GC in EB1 category. I know a friend who had similar qualifications and he got this EB1 GC approved within a year. You need not be in US to apply in EB1 and you can do all the paperwork in Canada via consular processing. My .02 cents.
I dont think MS+MBA makes a case for EB1. Anyway I can look into it. Pease PM me some details/contact of your friend if you can give.
I know long long back in early 90s they were liberal about EB1, not any more.
I dont think MS+MBA makes a case for EB1. Anyway I can look into it. Pease PM me some details/contact of your friend if you can give.
I know long long back in early 90s they were liberal about EB1, not any more.
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ArunAntonio
02-13 02:45 PM
Folks,
Please Ignore people who are obviously here to create confusion and to discourage and bring down the general morale. It causes a drain on the energy of the *Volunteer* Core Members. We should never lose sight of the fact that this is the one and only Forum that has our goals as the Priority and it is the *Volunteer* Core Members who have taken the initiative to try to get something done. The very fact that we have this Forum and that we have a coordinated effort to try to get some thing done to address our issue is worth the money that I have contributed and will continue to contribute.
What will I do with a few extra 100's when I have no security?
Folks please understand and support the effort. Be Positive and keep the energy effort and drive UP.
Please Ignore people who are obviously here to create confusion and to discourage and bring down the general morale. It causes a drain on the energy of the *Volunteer* Core Members. We should never lose sight of the fact that this is the one and only Forum that has our goals as the Priority and it is the *Volunteer* Core Members who have taken the initiative to try to get something done. The very fact that we have this Forum and that we have a coordinated effort to try to get some thing done to address our issue is worth the money that I have contributed and will continue to contribute.
What will I do with a few extra 100's when I have no security?
Folks please understand and support the effort. Be Positive and keep the energy effort and drive UP.
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swamy
11-14 09:43 PM
1) Please sign up for monthly contributions. Monthly contributions help us plan ahead of time and commit our resources. Just $50 every month per person can have significant effect on the overall push that IV can plan. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
Please post on this thread, if you have signed up for monthly contributions.
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Let us start a massive effort in this direction and make a year end push!
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
Please post on this thread, if you have signed up for monthly contributions.
================================================== ===============================
Let us start a massive effort in this direction and make a year end push!
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
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sunny1000
06-25 05:12 PM
Please call the congressman's office and request your friends, family and colleagues (including U.S citizens) to call as well to make this campaign a success.
Thanks.:)
Thanks.:)
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gk_2000
03-26 11:57 PM
You make no sense man. I am not against EB3. I just said what I think, and I can be wrong too. If you dont like this just ignore or give your view on how it justified to change the line in the middle of the game.
MC
You are right in acknowledging that you may be wrong. Where you may be wrong? Maybe your "opinion" that EB2 should be given GC first before a single EB3 is entertained. Maybe the first-come-first-served argument is the valid one after all.
How does "my" argument make sense? I say, ok, give priority to EB2, but only within the same year. So, last years' EB3 has to be allocated first, before this year's EB2/EB3 are considered. And for this year, dont process EB3's unless EB2's for this year are done
But, do you realize, all our opinions are moot? Come back to reality, and we immigrant community as a whole, get to ask only ONE wish. Using your wisdom, what should that one wish be? Ikken Hissatsu. Kill with one blow.
MC
You are right in acknowledging that you may be wrong. Where you may be wrong? Maybe your "opinion" that EB2 should be given GC first before a single EB3 is entertained. Maybe the first-come-first-served argument is the valid one after all.
How does "my" argument make sense? I say, ok, give priority to EB2, but only within the same year. So, last years' EB3 has to be allocated first, before this year's EB2/EB3 are considered. And for this year, dont process EB3's unless EB2's for this year are done
But, do you realize, all our opinions are moot? Come back to reality, and we immigrant community as a whole, get to ask only ONE wish. Using your wisdom, what should that one wish be? Ikken Hissatsu. Kill with one blow.
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yestogc
06-30 01:42 PM
Yes, last time also we got AP approved in around 30-40 days.
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06-13 07:57 PM
Every airlines has its onw set of issues - u will get the pinch only when shit hits the fan. My bags were stranded in Dubai and when I reached Chennai I had nothing with me except a small bag with no clothes.
The agents told me - if you have Indian passport then Emirates will give you $$ compensation per day but if you have American passport Emirates will give $$$ per day. They reimbursed me for 2 sets of clothes and shoes and $50 per day for three days because my bags arrived one by one on the third and fourth day after calling them everyday and pressurising them. If we did not call them - the bags would come slower than that. In Dubai the bags were in hot sun and I had choclates inside and somehow the cover broke and choclates melted and seeped through and a I think you all can imagine how it is.
What I am saying is - things are good everywhere unless we get into issues. Things were good until Retrogression hit us here. Now we complain about difference in treatment - but earlier wenever complained.
What I am saying is - when dealing with things outside of your home country - you cannot expect or assume fairness to you.
I dont understand your logic :confused: Every airline can have its own set of rules that doesnt mean they have the right to discriminate. You quoted your bad experience with Emirates while someone else had a good experience. So now we know that emirates also has some discriminatory rules.
When there are issues you have to complain and make yourself heard. Why would we complain about anything when Retrogression did not exist in the GC process ?
I agree that you cannot assume fairness outside your home country(WTH you cannot assume fairness even in your home country), but I disagree that you cannot expect fairness. If you have accepted racism just because you are a minority in another country then I guess you are ok with the way emirates treated you. You have nothing to complain.
The agents told me - if you have Indian passport then Emirates will give you $$ compensation per day but if you have American passport Emirates will give $$$ per day. They reimbursed me for 2 sets of clothes and shoes and $50 per day for three days because my bags arrived one by one on the third and fourth day after calling them everyday and pressurising them. If we did not call them - the bags would come slower than that. In Dubai the bags were in hot sun and I had choclates inside and somehow the cover broke and choclates melted and seeped through and a I think you all can imagine how it is.
What I am saying is - things are good everywhere unless we get into issues. Things were good until Retrogression hit us here. Now we complain about difference in treatment - but earlier wenever complained.
What I am saying is - when dealing with things outside of your home country - you cannot expect or assume fairness to you.
I dont understand your logic :confused: Every airline can have its own set of rules that doesnt mean they have the right to discriminate. You quoted your bad experience with Emirates while someone else had a good experience. So now we know that emirates also has some discriminatory rules.
When there are issues you have to complain and make yourself heard. Why would we complain about anything when Retrogression did not exist in the GC process ?
I agree that you cannot assume fairness outside your home country(WTH you cannot assume fairness even in your home country), but I disagree that you cannot expect fairness. If you have accepted racism just because you are a minority in another country then I guess you are ok with the way emirates treated you. You have nothing to complain.
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dixie
07-10 07:15 PM
this is the first time i heard details about this bill even though he has been talking about it after meeting Bush. the news article thread has the analysis i found from an anti immigration group site. AILA has posted it as their news today however they have not yet posted the summary of the bill. The question is which one of the 3 --SKIL bill, CIR or Pence will be really voted and which ones will be put in the backburner for future or silent demise!
In any case, Pence is one of the co-sponsors of the SKIL bill in the house.So I dont really think his bill would exclude us.The point is at least one of those bills should progress from where they are right now .. ANY bill.
In any case, Pence is one of the co-sponsors of the SKIL bill in the house.So I dont really think his bill would exclude us.The point is at least one of those bills should progress from where they are right now .. ANY bill.
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delax
07-14 01:36 PM
Are we assuming that all the BEC (Backlog Elimination Center) EB2's have already gotten their GCs..?
Not by a long shot. Read my signature.
Not by a long shot. Read my signature.
skillet
05-17 08:14 PM
Done
Munna Bhai
09-23 07:22 AM
I guess the cat is out of the bag. Yes, I got my greencard a few weeks ago. Yes, my PD is early 2004.
There are 2 current theories why:-
1. I'm very vocal in the media and lawmakers about the problem, and something made this happen (as my co-workers say "they gave it to you to shut you up")
2. I was a lucky one that was assigned a visa number in early June (when I applied for AOS) - it was approved when my PD was not current.
I'm not going anywhere, nothing has changed with the current policy. It is still broken. If for no other reason, the bizarre circumstances around my GC highlight more unpredictability and uncertainty in the whole process. I hadn't mentioned it before since it really isn't a big deal in the big picture.
Congrats.. and good to know that inspite of getting GC you have decided to stick with non-GC holders like us...
Thanks for your great efforts.
There are 2 current theories why:-
1. I'm very vocal in the media and lawmakers about the problem, and something made this happen (as my co-workers say "they gave it to you to shut you up")
2. I was a lucky one that was assigned a visa number in early June (when I applied for AOS) - it was approved when my PD was not current.
I'm not going anywhere, nothing has changed with the current policy. It is still broken. If for no other reason, the bizarre circumstances around my GC highlight more unpredictability and uncertainty in the whole process. I hadn't mentioned it before since it really isn't a big deal in the big picture.
Congrats.. and good to know that inspite of getting GC you have decided to stick with non-GC holders like us...
Thanks for your great efforts.
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