priderock
05-31 03:26 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
wallpaper 2011 Toyota Celica Right Side
casinoroyale
07-27 11:49 AM
bumping
rajsand
09-20 12:54 PM
I think bribing would mean IV paying people to come to the rally...! Here we ar eonly registering them...
On second thoughts, we could collect $30 or so for food and bring lunch packets.. and forget the reimbursement part..!
$30 will go towards food & water and also for organising the event!!
On second thoughts, we could collect $30 or so for food and bring lunch packets.. and forget the reimbursement part..!
$30 will go towards food & water and also for organising the event!!
2011 toyota celica 2011 price.
eastindia
01-12 10:07 AM
Please refer to this link
U.S. Department of Labor - Find It By Topic - Equal Employment Opportunity - Immigration (http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/discrimination/immdisc.htm)
Equal Employment Opportunity applies only to applicants who are eligible to apply for that job. It does NOT apply to immigrant visa allocation (aka I-485 approval).
If you don't agree with this, I would suggest spending $200 with an attorney to get initial consultation and get the answer to enlighten yourself.
___________________
Not a legal advice.
I agree with you.
Country limits is a law. A court has to follow the law. Court does not decide if the law is fair or unfair.
If you want to change the law, go to congress.
BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY TO THROW AWAY TO LAWYERS.
And whats with big lawyer names? Just because a lawyer has a website and writes on a website, does not mean he is a big lawyer. Look beyond the marketing of lawyers and see their skills, track record and genuine concern for your long wait. You are asking the same lawyers to help you whose bread and butter comes because you are applicants in a long line.
Highly educated innocents!
U.S. Department of Labor - Find It By Topic - Equal Employment Opportunity - Immigration (http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/discrimination/immdisc.htm)
Equal Employment Opportunity applies only to applicants who are eligible to apply for that job. It does NOT apply to immigrant visa allocation (aka I-485 approval).
If you don't agree with this, I would suggest spending $200 with an attorney to get initial consultation and get the answer to enlighten yourself.
___________________
Not a legal advice.
I agree with you.
Country limits is a law. A court has to follow the law. Court does not decide if the law is fair or unfair.
If you want to change the law, go to congress.
BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY TO THROW AWAY TO LAWYERS.
And whats with big lawyer names? Just because a lawyer has a website and writes on a website, does not mean he is a big lawyer. Look beyond the marketing of lawyers and see their skills, track record and genuine concern for your long wait. You are asking the same lawyers to help you whose bread and butter comes because you are applicants in a long line.
Highly educated innocents!
more...
n_2006
06-10 11:08 AM
We should not waste our time and money on this. I also would like to understand the lobbying impact of IV. After hearing tech lobby brought CA governor into picture and even that does not make any difference in favor of tech companies, are we making any impact with 200-300 thousand lobbying and some web faxes?
There is no question about IV effort. But the question I have is impact of that effort.
I am not sure why we are still behind this bill and wasting our money and resources,
everyone here needs to realize we don't need to sweeping legislative reform to address our concern, all we need few guidelines to impliment current law in more sensible way,
we simply don't have resources/strenght to address this issue letz not fool ourself anymore and letz put our moeny where mouth is
There is no question about IV effort. But the question I have is impact of that effort.
I am not sure why we are still behind this bill and wasting our money and resources,
everyone here needs to realize we don't need to sweeping legislative reform to address our concern, all we need few guidelines to impliment current law in more sensible way,
we simply don't have resources/strenght to address this issue letz not fool ourself anymore and letz put our moeny where mouth is
ssss
04-17 12:56 PM
My greencard process started in 2002 and have a PD of 2005. That too it was filed in a hurry because PERM was starting and my last 1 yr of H1 was up
more...
she81
07-18 02:48 PM
Can someone please close this thread. It is really ugly and some people have really gone overboard with their criticisms. Need to introduce some serious ettiquette in this forum.
2010 toyota celica 2011 price.
pappu
05-19 01:07 PM
Dear Members,
We have worked hard in the last 4 years and have made some progress along the way Immigration Voice Achievements (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=47) But Most of us are still in the limbo of green card process and waiting in different stages. Some of us may have advanced to the I-485 stage and have a little more career flexibility but the hanging sword of uncertainty still looms over our heads.
Our angst, our insecurity:
Even with EAD and other options, lack of green card is lack of security and lack of certainty. You know it and you feel it every day. In order to find a permanent fix for the uncertainty, angst and insecurity and in order to snap out of the probationary lifestyle and career, we have to finish what we started over 4 years ago -- get the U.S. Congress to act on this problem and solve it once and for all.
Early effort wins:
The first agenda of next Congress will be immigration and we expect an immigration bill to be debated sometime in early 2011. However, it would be a big mistake to wait until that time to do something about that bill. Successful advocacy efforts are the ones that start early and introduce concepts and ideas into the debate before the legislators write their first draft. Once the committee hearings and debates begin, it is harder to get changes or fixes into a bill because it requires an amendment to the bill in a politically charged and heated atmosphere. Groups and organizations that wait until the last minute to influence members of congress often fail to achieve results. In order to succeed in next year's immigration bill, we have to begin talking to members of congress now. Remember, the advocacy efforts we did with lobby day and rally in Sept 2007 influenced congress to include our provisions in bipartisan bills introduced in Aug 2008. Legislative things take time.
How you can help:
You and help in two different ways:
Join the advocacy effort in DC on June 7th and 8th. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html) If you have never done this before, we encourage you to help us with this and join us. Immigration voice will arrange the logistics of setting up meetings and arranging the material for you to take to your Congressmen and Senators. We are expecting about 150 immigration voice members to gather in DC and participate in over 200 meetings with Congressmen and Senators.
Contributing Funds to help finance the effort (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1534974-funding-drive-iv-needs-your-support-for-advocacy-events-in-dc.html). You are most welcome to come to DC and join us but if your job demands are such that you cannot take two days off on June 7th and 8th, then you can still contribute to this effort by contributing financially to Immigration Voice. Many expenses tied to the travel of grassroots members from distant states is being expensed by Immigration Voice. So kindly contribute funds to this effort by clicking on this link. You have an obligation to yourself and your family to plant your career in this country once and for all. EAD and AP, if you have them, are not going to cut it. We are not there yet. And we have to finish together what we started together.
Thank you.
Immigration Voice. (www.immigrationvoice.org).
We have worked hard in the last 4 years and have made some progress along the way Immigration Voice Achievements (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=47) But Most of us are still in the limbo of green card process and waiting in different stages. Some of us may have advanced to the I-485 stage and have a little more career flexibility but the hanging sword of uncertainty still looms over our heads.
Our angst, our insecurity:
Even with EAD and other options, lack of green card is lack of security and lack of certainty. You know it and you feel it every day. In order to find a permanent fix for the uncertainty, angst and insecurity and in order to snap out of the probationary lifestyle and career, we have to finish what we started over 4 years ago -- get the U.S. Congress to act on this problem and solve it once and for all.
Early effort wins:
The first agenda of next Congress will be immigration and we expect an immigration bill to be debated sometime in early 2011. However, it would be a big mistake to wait until that time to do something about that bill. Successful advocacy efforts are the ones that start early and introduce concepts and ideas into the debate before the legislators write their first draft. Once the committee hearings and debates begin, it is harder to get changes or fixes into a bill because it requires an amendment to the bill in a politically charged and heated atmosphere. Groups and organizations that wait until the last minute to influence members of congress often fail to achieve results. In order to succeed in next year's immigration bill, we have to begin talking to members of congress now. Remember, the advocacy efforts we did with lobby day and rally in Sept 2007 influenced congress to include our provisions in bipartisan bills introduced in Aug 2008. Legislative things take time.
How you can help:
You and help in two different ways:
Join the advocacy effort in DC on June 7th and 8th. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html) If you have never done this before, we encourage you to help us with this and join us. Immigration voice will arrange the logistics of setting up meetings and arranging the material for you to take to your Congressmen and Senators. We are expecting about 150 immigration voice members to gather in DC and participate in over 200 meetings with Congressmen and Senators.
Contributing Funds to help finance the effort (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1534974-funding-drive-iv-needs-your-support-for-advocacy-events-in-dc.html). You are most welcome to come to DC and join us but if your job demands are such that you cannot take two days off on June 7th and 8th, then you can still contribute to this effort by contributing financially to Immigration Voice. Many expenses tied to the travel of grassroots members from distant states is being expensed by Immigration Voice. So kindly contribute funds to this effort by clicking on this link. You have an obligation to yourself and your family to plant your career in this country once and for all. EAD and AP, if you have them, are not going to cut it. We are not there yet. And we have to finish together what we started together.
Thank you.
Immigration Voice. (www.immigrationvoice.org).
more...
GCBy3000
02-13 04:39 PM
Just with few members going against you within couple of hours, you are backing from your point. Then imagine how tough it will be to work for our goals working against our forces on daily basis in this country.
Just less than a day and few members are enough to push you back. Having similar and stronger opposition IV is still live. This one is enough to prove the leader ship.
Your previous post demands results from IV. You look like CEO/Chairman of IV. I pity your insanity and you have to learn a lot to live in this real world.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Just less than a day and few members are enough to push you back. Having similar and stronger opposition IV is still live. This one is enough to prove the leader ship.
Your previous post demands results from IV. You look like CEO/Chairman of IV. I pity your insanity and you have to learn a lot to live in this real world.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
hair Toyota Celica 2011 Price
jayram123
07-09 03:22 PM
Can you send multiple applications in the same package.
Coz. my attorney gave me a tracking number and there are almost 4 names in the reference section of the Fedex Online Tracking System.
As long as they are separated inside with rubber bands and cover sheets, this is OK. This is very typical of how most law firms do it. This is actually covered in tips on how to assemble your packet. You are fine.
Don't worry. Take Relax (something someone I know used to say :) )
Coz. my attorney gave me a tracking number and there are almost 4 names in the reference section of the Fedex Online Tracking System.
As long as they are separated inside with rubber bands and cover sheets, this is OK. This is very typical of how most law firms do it. This is actually covered in tips on how to assemble your packet. You are fine.
Don't worry. Take Relax (something someone I know used to say :) )
more...
mrajatish
03-21 09:42 AM
I absolutely do not agree that it will do more harm - given the current situation where every country is backlogged in EB3, and EB2 for India/China is also severely backlogged, there is very little chance that India and China can have more than 10000 visas (7% of 140,000) issued in Fy 2006 across all of Eb1/2/3.
Current System
EB1 China/India might benefit a bit because they will be the first ones to get the visas from extra EB1 visas but then, if Specter/Frist's bill passes, many of these EB1's will get a chance to file for 485 anyway.
EB2 China/India might also benefit a little bit provided rest of the world leaves something behind.
EB3 will not benefit at all as every country is backlogged here.
Looking at FY 2005 statistics is very misleading. So, the way things are, any bill is better than no bill at all - at least we have a shot at improving the status quo we are in.
Instead of just comparing current situation with future, especially when the future is so unclear, we should try our level best to achieve the following
1. Put the clause back
2. Amendment to file 485 after 140 or labor has been approved for certain time but Visa number is not available. Emphasis should be on the total wait time for GC, so that people in BECs do not get screwed.
Put all your energy and efforts in achieving these and we will not see retrogression for many years. My goal is not to dissuade people from the comparison - it is a healthy exercise, but now that we know what the pros and cons are, let us work together to solve.
Current System
EB1 China/India might benefit a bit because they will be the first ones to get the visas from extra EB1 visas but then, if Specter/Frist's bill passes, many of these EB1's will get a chance to file for 485 anyway.
EB2 China/India might also benefit a little bit provided rest of the world leaves something behind.
EB3 will not benefit at all as every country is backlogged here.
Looking at FY 2005 statistics is very misleading. So, the way things are, any bill is better than no bill at all - at least we have a shot at improving the status quo we are in.
Instead of just comparing current situation with future, especially when the future is so unclear, we should try our level best to achieve the following
1. Put the clause back
2. Amendment to file 485 after 140 or labor has been approved for certain time but Visa number is not available. Emphasis should be on the total wait time for GC, so that people in BECs do not get screwed.
Put all your energy and efforts in achieving these and we will not see retrogression for many years. My goal is not to dissuade people from the comparison - it is a healthy exercise, but now that we know what the pros and cons are, let us work together to solve.
hot Toyota Celica 2011 Price
grupak
06-27 01:26 PM
Need calls from the Congressman's district.
Texans, please check if you are from his district, and call.
Texans, please check if you are from his district, and call.
more...
house Toyota Celica 2011 Price.
sapota
09-19 08:43 PM
Campaign contribution is the lubricant oil of politics (all pun intended - big oil is the biggest contributor to both parties).
Strength of IV & the skilled immigrant community should translate to campaign dollars. If the skilled immigrant community is in powerful positions in big firms, they can influence company contributions. Same applies for companies (to be) founded by immigrants.
We need to put our money where our mouth is.
Strength of IV & the skilled immigrant community should translate to campaign dollars. If the skilled immigrant community is in powerful positions in big firms, they can influence company contributions. Same applies for companies (to be) founded by immigrants.
We need to put our money where our mouth is.
tattoo 2012 Toyota Celica from
waitingnwaiting
03-25 10:15 AM
Here is news for you. It will not happen. People with ported PDs will take priority as their dates are in 2002, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005...
This year spillover will be used by porters. So hold off on your celebration and wait like everyone else.
This year spillover will be used by porters. So hold off on your celebration and wait like everyone else.
more...
pictures 2012 Toyota Celica from Front
rsdang
09-18 11:13 AM
Seems like you have all the evidence you need... unless your lawyer screwed up...
All the best...
All the best...
dresses toyota celica 2011 price.
navin80
06-20 10:29 AM
Gurus please advise,
I have a H1b with Company A. It expires in Nov 08.
A couple of months ago I joined company B and they transferred my H1B.
Now if I want to go back to Company A, do I need to transfer my H1B again?
Company A has not cancelled my H1 and I am in good terms with them.
pl. advise
I have a H1b with Company A. It expires in Nov 08.
A couple of months ago I joined company B and they transferred my H1B.
Now if I want to go back to Company A, do I need to transfer my H1B again?
Company A has not cancelled my H1 and I am in good terms with them.
pl. advise
more...
makeup toyota celica 2011 price.
purplehazea
06-30 11:17 AM
What does the introduction of SKIL bill in House mean to us? i.e. what are the likely scenarios from here on? Thanks in advance.
girlfriend Toyota Celica 2011 Price.
sugaur
05-20 08:37 AM
500 dollars
Go IV
Transaction ID: 1ST1130233524193F
Go IV
Transaction ID: 1ST1130233524193F
hairstyles toyota celica 2011 price.
santb1975
05-02 12:52 AM
Every dollar counts. Thanks a lot
Hi Santb..
I have made contribution $50.00 on sunday and here you again with another $50.00 today and receipt id is included.
Actually, i wanted to do $20.00 monthy but as i couldn't find any options, i have made this one time contribution.
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #5S198852B4649412C)
Total Amount:
-$50.00 USD
Date:
May 1, 2008
Time:
16:57:12 PDT
Status:
Completed
Subject:
Immigration Voice
Shipping Address:
No Address Provided
Hi Santb..
I have made contribution $50.00 on sunday and here you again with another $50.00 today and receipt id is included.
Actually, i wanted to do $20.00 monthy but as i couldn't find any options, i have made this one time contribution.
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #5S198852B4649412C)
Total Amount:
-$50.00 USD
Date:
May 1, 2008
Time:
16:57:12 PDT
Status:
Completed
Subject:
Immigration Voice
Shipping Address:
No Address Provided
franklin
09-20 02:27 AM
but I did my bit because I could not attend. I was part of the rally that happened in San Jose.
Please try to understand the message I am conveying rather than making fun. Although I did have a hearty laugh :)
Its fine - just a gentle teasing, I meant not harm - sorry! That's why I'm so vocal on this board as I'm neither male nor Indian. I was actually glad to see that I wasn't the only at the rally so I didn't look like a total fool!
Please try to understand the message I am conveying rather than making fun. Although I did have a hearty laugh :)
Its fine - just a gentle teasing, I meant not harm - sorry! That's why I'm so vocal on this board as I'm neither male nor Indian. I was actually glad to see that I wasn't the only at the rally so I didn't look like a total fool!
hydboy77
02-13 05:55 PM
You are reading my post selectively and not in its entirety. I did not say EAD is waste and useless, I said EAD is waste and useless without the removal of semilar or same job requirement in AC21 as USCIS will sooner or later deny AOS based on semilar\same job requirement. Do you know how many RFE\denial notices have been issued by USCIS to EAD\Ac21 workers? There is an entire thread running into several pages related to that. Scores of people wrote to USCIS ombudsman complaining about USCIS issuing denial notice to people whose I140 was revoked by previous employer even though Ac21 says AOS continues even if I140 is rovoked by previous employer. There are instances where USCIS has issued rfe to prove they are in a same\semilar job. History has shown USCIS uses issues like same\semilar job to kick people out. Based on the IO adjudicating your case, based on the economic climate etc USCIS has made life difficuly (current h1b crackdown is a example).
What I am saying is bring in protection to AOS by
-removing the same or semilar job requirement in AC21
-making sure USCIS does not deny AOS when previous employer revokes aproved i140.(even though ac21 says aos cannot be denied, USCIS is sending denail notice).
Yes EAD is absolutely better than H1b but not for long, when people start using EAD instead of H1b, USCIS will start denying AOS based on Same\semilar job or other grey areas (not working on EAD because of lay off) then you are back to square one. If you are on EAD and AOS is denied you are out of status like H1b. Close the loopholes first before you open the pre filing AOS. Your statement regarding not work at all on EAD is not correct. USCIS can issue rfe\denial notice for lack of job. I hope it was true that it does not matter if you are not working at all on EAD.
I read through your reply, however, I found it extremely hard for me to accept your points. You've been probably on EAD too long to remember what a dire condition you came from as an H1B worker. Let's look at it:
As an AOS, you can:
- Work for any employer
- Not work at all
- Travel out of the country without worrying visa delay
- When you got laid off, no need to worry about being out of status or restarting GC
As an H1B worker:
- If you are laid off, everything, years of wait, thousands of dollars, down the drain, and the whole family becomes out of status immediately. And in this dire economy, this is a sword hanging on the head of every H1B worker.
- Worry about re-entry visa each time you travel
With such a huge different, I can hardly convience myself that EAD is 'useless' or 'waste'. True, you'll need to work for same or similar job, but compared to the benefit, it is not nearly as big a problem faced by H1B workers day by day.
What I am saying is bring in protection to AOS by
-removing the same or semilar job requirement in AC21
-making sure USCIS does not deny AOS when previous employer revokes aproved i140.(even though ac21 says aos cannot be denied, USCIS is sending denail notice).
Yes EAD is absolutely better than H1b but not for long, when people start using EAD instead of H1b, USCIS will start denying AOS based on Same\semilar job or other grey areas (not working on EAD because of lay off) then you are back to square one. If you are on EAD and AOS is denied you are out of status like H1b. Close the loopholes first before you open the pre filing AOS. Your statement regarding not work at all on EAD is not correct. USCIS can issue rfe\denial notice for lack of job. I hope it was true that it does not matter if you are not working at all on EAD.
I read through your reply, however, I found it extremely hard for me to accept your points. You've been probably on EAD too long to remember what a dire condition you came from as an H1B worker. Let's look at it:
As an AOS, you can:
- Work for any employer
- Not work at all
- Travel out of the country without worrying visa delay
- When you got laid off, no need to worry about being out of status or restarting GC
As an H1B worker:
- If you are laid off, everything, years of wait, thousands of dollars, down the drain, and the whole family becomes out of status immediately. And in this dire economy, this is a sword hanging on the head of every H1B worker.
- Worry about re-entry visa each time you travel
With such a huge different, I can hardly convience myself that EAD is 'useless' or 'waste'. True, you'll need to work for same or similar job, but compared to the benefit, it is not nearly as big a problem faced by H1B workers day by day.
No comments:
Post a Comment